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This post has been long over due, but here we go…
In mid-November I went out to practice random stranger approach (going out with the intention of improving my skill set). I approached 5 girls. 4 stopped. I collected the 2 numbers out of the 4 girls that stopped. Then I converted the two numbers to lays. The 1st girl is the “NY Model “chick. The 2nd girl is the Asian “Good Girl”. The 3rd girl is just a bonus lay report from 2009.
“NYC MODEL GIRL”
After First Lay at Hookah Bar
Challenges:Local NY Girl /College and Modeling Social Circle /Has College Boyfriend
Due to popular demand, I decided to make an audio lay report on my Justin Wayne Podcast.
Since I did the a Podcast on this, I will not have a written lay report. I think this it is quite informative… more informative than any other lay report thus far.
Here is the break down of how I handled my challenges:
“ASIAN GOOD GIRL”
Hello There
Challenges: Local NY Girl /College Social Circle /Has College Boyfriend
Initial Pickup
During practice, I saw her walking extremely fast coming towards me. I stopped her by using the new Justin Wayne “Pointing Stop” which was inspired by the infamous NY Street Sales-Man/Promotor “Gary”. He can be found in the “3 lays and 24 hrs Lay Report Video”. I used this stop for the previous girl also. This pick-up was very simple. WHen I stopped her, I used a simple observational opener about her stylish pants. She seemed receptive in a social way, NOT ROMANTIC. We spoke for about 2 minutes then she said she really had to go. I knew that letting her go at that time would lead to a number that goes nowhere. Instead I simply skipped a few steps in my flirtation model. I ended with a simple playful hug since we only spoke for like 3 minutes. She had to meet her friends. I made solid plans to meet her the next day.
Date
I was somewhat confident she would show up. The rest is in the video above.
Meet the Boyfriend
“BONUS 2009 LAY and KEEP”
2009 Lay & Keep
She is actually an old girlfriend of mine that I picked up in the Park of Union Square in 2009. It was a tough pick-up from meet-to-sex seeing that she was so busy with her life. She was 18 that time, very distracted, and was in a relationship with the frat guy in her college. She was part of her college sorority so she was already having too much things going on. The ONLY way I was able to pick her up, meet her again, make her get rid of her boyfriend that her friends loved, and make her go against her friends terrible opinions about me being a ‘stranger’ was by creating a romantic connection with her that was pretty much unbreakable.
Here is the break down video of this:
Social Butterfly
Her 'social circle' boyfriend who I took her from...
This is broken down in depth in my podcast above; there will be video proof AS USUAL down below. This bonus video is pretty explicit and is only for JW Members.
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I keep hearing guys complain about not being able to get girls with boyfriends. I would say about 70% of girls I’ve slept with had boyfriends. This was a very interesting phenomena to me as I started to improve with women. Over time, I’ve realized that girls can say this for two reasons.
1) She is not that into you
2) She is simply letting you know her situation, just incase you get clingy after sex.
According to my findings, there are 4 different stages in a relationship between a man and a woman.
1) TAKE OFF: This is when they are a new couple and commitment isn’t as secure. During this time, I found that many girls would cheat if they are tempted.
2)NEW LOVE: This is when the couple finally got comfortable and have a fresh new romance in their lives. This is much tougher to get though from a stranger approach, however still possible depending on your overall game, look, and vibe for that particular woman.
3)OLD LOVE: In this stage the couples less attracted to each other in that “new” way. They have to find other reasons to stay with each other. This is where married people get to. Its more about the connection and trust between each other as opposed to the hot new romance. This is also where compatibility comes in. According to my findings, there are MANY women who would cheat but less would LEAVE their boyfriend. Especially if they have a good understanding of each other.
4) DOWN HILL: This is where the relationship is obviously heading to nowhere. This is one situation where many girls dont truly consider it as”cheating” since they were bound to break up anyways. This is the best time for a guy to get her.
For this post, I will break down 3 girls that I recently cheated on their boyfriends with me. The name of the girls will be according to the video.
“BARNES AND NOBLE GIRL“
Age: 19 Relationship Status : New Love
External Challenges: Anglo-American Girl / Huge College Social Circle / Lives in New York
I was having a bootcamp with some new clients, and one of them wanted me to demonstrate Indirect opening. I wanted to show him that you can use almost any conversation opener. I used the cheesiest opener of all times to prove a point. “Hey excuse me, who do you think lies more, men or women”. She was looking at a book when I approached her in the bookstore. At that time 2 of my clients observed. As soon as she answered, I switched up the conversation to neutral immediately. As soon as she spoke to me on a normal level, I started flirting with her just enough to get out of the pure social vibe. We spoke for 10 minutes or less. Then I ended the conversation very DIRECT, saying “Your Sexy, I wanna take out out for coffee, which day are you free”. She smiled and agreed on a date.
nice butt...
For the date, I had my mind set that I will walk away as soon as I get any sign of true resistance, (I’ll explain why later). I am not a fan of ‘pushing’ all the way for sex or anything. I am a believer that after the first interaction I don’t want to use any more influence. So as soon as we met I hugged her and kissed her on the cheek and then grabbed her hand to see if she will allow it. If she wasn’t comfortable, then I would have simply told her that this isn’t going anywhere and leave. However, she held it. We went for tea at a place close to my apartment. Then we went to the park that was close to it. This is where I take girls to go for make out and start heavily flirting with them. When I took her home, I did the usual camera routine where we just have fun on my camera. After that she just went all over me and started kissing me with passion. I then closed the deal.
Kept her around for a bit...
“LOWER EASTSIDE GIRL“
Age: 20 Relationship Status: Old Love
External Challenges: American Girl / Huge College and Modeling Social Circle / Lives with boyfriend in NYC
I was walking with Gary the Street Promoter and another guy when he said “approach her!” Since we were having fun that night i decided to go. She was on her way home from work. I stopped on and said ” Hey, I am not letting you pass without a kiss:) ” She looked at me and laughed. I then asked her where she was from. We spoke for 5 minutes. I did really direct game since and we ended the interaction with a number and a kiss on the lips ( a peck, not a full blown make out).
We met up like 3 weeks later. The game plan was the same as the “Barnes and Noble Girl”. And it went out exactly as planned. WHile we were walking to my house she mentioned that she lives with her boyfriend. I told her Im not the jealous type . We went to my house, same routine. CLosed the deal on first date. I then kept her around for a bit.
“LIVE STREET PICK UP GIRL“
Age: 25 Relationship Status: Old Love
External Challenges: Unknown
This was just a simple recording of how to physically escalate very fast on the street. I did this as a demonstration for my clients and Gotham Dating Club since they came with cameras for a student review. I may post the full video. It took like 5 minutes to the make out. Then I number closed her and met up with her again and closed the deal. Same plan as the other two. Nothing special to mention.
COMMON QUESTIONS
Q1) Hey Justin, Do you get rejections? It looks so easy on your blog.
Yes, I get rejections. Also, I will have a good interaction but tough logistics ( friends pulling her away, boyfriend comes around the corner, etc )
Q2) Do you go out often to practice like many guru’s recommend? I mean 4-5 times a week.
I hardly go out to “game” anymore. Sometimes my friends will pull me out the house when I am bitching and being lazy. I also have other things going on. I only really game during my bootcamps as demonstrations. So to be specific, I would say once a week. Sometimes once in two weeks.
Q3) How much do you recommend to practice?
It varies from person to person. Some people can handle constant approaching. I know a street promoter who is an absolute machine. I could never approach as much as him. I know other people who have to approach a little. So it depends. I Usually customize practice exercises with my clients
Q4) Do you ever feel nervous?
Yes, however I mostly just feel lazy about going out and changing my mood to have fun.
Q5) When I read your earlier post, I saw you mention The Domino Effect. WHat is it?
Here is a video about it.
EMAIL BAG QUESTION
Hey Justin,
wanted to ask you another question. its about bfs objections in daygame.how do you get over that? and even when you get on the day2, how do you close the deal from there? do you have to go on many dates?you said 80% of girls in daygame you closed had bfs.
ANSWER
Many of my clients go through that sticking point.
When your game gets better you will get it much less. It means that you need to generate more interest before making certain moves. You need to ask yourself when do they give the boyfriend objection.
There’s two types of boyfriend objections…
1) when she says very early, sorry I have a boyfriend and SHE LEAVES right away.
2) When you are gaming her and she mentions she has a boyfriend but still stays and MOVES FORWARD with you.
If its number one, then you need to work on initial game and let her go.
if it is number two, you just need to simply ignore it and continue doing everything as if she didnt mention it.
On day 2, focus on closing the deal… Make sure your logistics align so that you can take her home… However, there will be times when you may not be able to close on day2, so simply just try again on day3. But when you have stronger initial game, the closes happen much easier.
on avg i do many same day lays and day 2s.. occasion day 3′s as well…
And yes it appears that many of the hotter girls ive been with already had boyfriends so ive been forced to have to up my game to the point where the girl simply gets seduced and wants to cheat on her boyfriend…
Hope this helps.
Others with Boyfriends will be for next part… I didn’t want to make 7 lay reports in one post.
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Greetings Gamers…
I recently have been focusing on other parts of my life for the past few months. I find it very important to have a balance of social circle and stranger approach. I still got laid from random stranger approaching during the past few months, but I was too busy dealing with other aspects. This post is made as proof that stranger approach can be done very efficiently beyond so called “Naturals” However, it takes much practice and is not designed for everyone as I’d honestly admit. Let’s take a look at the lay report where I approached 3 random female strangers and was able to close all 3 of them within 24 hrs and STILL have managed to keep two of them around.
Firstly, What was my motivation?
I recently created a social circle where I had one of my friends totally sabotage my reputation with the social circle that we built together within the course of 3 months. Long story short, he was envious and spread negative things about me to the girls and guys. So I simply abandoned the social circle like it was no big deal that day and went gaming with my roommate REX and our other gaming buddies Gary and Joey. This was on Sat morning at 12 am on April 30th.
1st Close “Spanish Girl”
Time of initial approach: about 1: 55 am
Close time : about 2:30 am
Logistics: She was very walking to the train station to go home.
She was a 22-year old local New Yorker born and raised with Puerto Rican descent and NOT a foreigner looking for fun.
She was tired and moody.
Her mind was set on going home.
The Break Down
I was with Rex, Gary and Joey and we were going towards this strip where there were a bunch of bars. I was honestly very tired. I saw a spanish girl and decided to go for stop her as she was walking tremendously fast as if she was in a rush. I went direct and and very flirty. It was hard stopping her, she looked as if she was really going to walk away. So then I had to rely on some quick entertainment stuff to get her buying temperature up. I grabbed her hand within a minute and got her her to agree to come to a bar with me. I went straight to my apartment which was 10 minutes away. As soon as she came inside, she made out with me and gave excellent head and then asked if I had a condom. The rest was history. She left right after sex because she had to go to church early in the morning with her family.
2ND Girl ” Blonde with a boyfriend”
Time of Initial approach: about 1:05 am
Close time : about 6:35 pm
Logistics: She was walking very fast to her boyfriends musical performance.
21 years old (originally from London ) but lived in NY for past 5 years so she is a local and NOT a foreigner looking for fun.
She had a legitimate constraint and I was forced to settle for a phone number.
Her mind was set on going to her boyfriend’s concert.
She was leaving with him 3 days later to Europe for a whole month.
The Break Down
During the hangout, me and the guys where walking along Houston St, and I saw this cute blonde girl walking quickly. I stopped her and went direct and flirty. She said “sorry, I have a boyfriend and im actually on my way to see him perform”. Due to tons of experience, I simply focus on generating romantic interest with her, and I felt that I can still get her (due to many past success with girls with boyfriends). It was very flirty, I held her hand gently as i spoke to her. She was blushing. We kissed (10 minutes in) on the lips gently. She said” you are going to get me in trouble, we should stop this”. I said “only if you promise to meet me later.” She gave me her number. We parted ways. I had to rely on “solid game”. I knew there was a good chance of her seeing me later that Saturday from many past experiences.
Her and her Boyfriend
I met her at 5 pm. She told me that we only have an hr and a half because her boyfriend and his family invited her to dinner. I knew that I had to go straight to my house. (I always meet them close to my house). When we met, I made sure i hugged right away to continue that flirty energy. We walked straight to my house, she was a bit skeptical about going there so soon, but i created a reason to go inside to give her plausible deniability. Rex was home when I brought her in, we went straight to my room. WHile in my room I used very playful vibes to get her loose and comfortable and broke down her boyfriend guarde. After we made out in the room, I fingered her right away and the rest was history. After sex, she then rushed out to meet up with her boyfriend and family.
3RD GIRL “Reserved Girl”
Time of Initial approach: about 12:10 am
Close time : about 11:30 pm
Logistics: She was walking to get a cab
She was a 24-year old local and NOT a foreigner looking for fun.
She had a legitimate constraint and I was forced to settle for a phone number.
Later that night her friends tried to convince her to not go home with me.
The Break Down
I saw her walking. I went direct and flirty. She stopped and I did fluff talk. She was walking to the cab as we held hands. The interaction lasted about 10 minutes. She then jumped in the cab and i Made out with her right before she went in cab.
She met up with me later on but she was with friends. The hard part was that her friends were telling her not to go home with me since we just met and they dont know me well enough yet. I convinced her to come with me still. She came over to my place. Closed the deal.